166. Dr. Nadine Macaluso on Trauma Bonds: How to Spot Love-Bombing, Set Boundaries, and Heal

166. Dr. Nadine Macaluso on Trauma Bonds: How to Spot Love-Bombing, Set Boundaries, and Heal

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What happens when the “perfect” relationship is powered by control, confusion, and intermittent kindness?

In this powerful conversation, Dr. Nadine Macaluso, somatic psychologist and author of Run Like Hell, breaks down trauma bonds. She explains why love-bombing feels so intoxicating at first, and how to rebuild trust in yourself after leaving a toxic dynamic. We cover red flags, green flags, co-parenting with a difficult ex, and why “boring” can actually mean safe, steady, and good.

How do you recognize when love turns into control, and find the courage to walk away from a trauma bond?

Escaping toxic cycles isn’t just about leaving the situation. It’s about relearning safety, trusting your own signals, and choosing peace over chaos.

(00:26) Origin Story & Reinvention at Any Age

     Going back to school at 39 and finishing a doctorate at 45 proves reinvention is possible at any age

     How early exposure to feelings and psychology sparked Nadine’s path

     Therapy as a lifeline when chaos became overwhelming

(04:03) Love-Bombing & Early Red Flags

     The intoxicating “soulmate” language and excessive attention of love-bombing

     Why mismatched words and actions are an early signal to notice

     Tuning into your body’s warning signs when something feels off

(07:09) What a Trauma Bond Really Is

     Two defining conditions: intermittent abuse and a power imbalance

     How Nadine’s Trauma Bonds Assessment and the Big Five test can offer clarity

     Why it’s critical to drop self-blame and focus on prevention

(11:20) Healing Timeline, Boundaries & Green Flags

     Why healing from a trauma bond takes about two years

     The relief of “I hear you” as a sign of safety

     Quick red flags to avoid: boundary-plowing, sudden rage, and chronic inconsistency

(21:50) Co-Parenting, Somatic Tools & Choosing Peace

     Co-parenting from authenticity instead of rebellion or people-pleasing

     How to track emotions somatically—where feelings live in the body

     Reframing “boring” as safe, steady, and priceless for long-term peace

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